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There’s always some specials and promotions happening, so it won’t be that expensive, but home kits are usually cheaper than in office treatment.

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I’ve seen this mentioned before and if done very by a real expert and placed in the right areas with the right amounts, then Botox can help give the impression of bigger eyes.

It sounds possible, but needs to be done with someone who understands facial muscles, aesthetics and botox.

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The local option sometimes may not be the best option. 101 is a good local clinic, but is usually booked up and on the pricer side.

Nose: TL, MVP, ITEM, Naturalism

 

When are you planning to come to Seoul?

 

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Hi these are all good questions.

For non-incision questions:

1. Procedure: Approximately 30 ~ 45 min
2. Whole Process: 7 Days Until Stitches are taken out.
3. How long after the procedure will my eyes gain normal use?: Your vision will not be affected, but looking somewhat presentable and recommended recovery would be 2 to 3 days.
4. How long after does the scar disappear? Scars are significantly minimized by non-incision method.
5. How many post opp visits? 2

For incision questions:

1. Procedure: Approximately 30 ~ 45 min
2. Whole Process: 7 Days Until Stitches are taken out.
3. How long after the procedure will my eyes gain normal use?: Your vision will not be affected, but looking somewhat presentable and recommended recovery would be 2 to 3 days.
4. How long after does the scar disappear? There will be a scar and it will fade overtime, but it depends on the individual and your lifestyle. Could take up to a year or two to be dramatically unoticable.
5. How many post opp visits? 2

Best Surgeons? Honestly this is one the most common and straightforward procedures in Korea. If you go to a reputable clinic (the clinics listed on this site), you’ll be in good hands. From our experience, ‘best’ means something different for everyone because everyone’s values and goals are different. Your values sound like you want a clinic that gives good personal attention and has a translator or doctor you can communicate with that will give you facetime. If that’s the case maybe a mid-size clinic with English staff would be better fit. But note since this is a very common procedure, the consult times with a doctor are probably going to be 15 to 20 minutes max on average.

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Hi @pale thanks for posting.

Do you want the sharp angle like that? Most clinics that specialize in maxillofacial surgery and facial contouring can offer that look, but might advise against it. It really depends on their diagnosis and making sure to keep your face in balance while performing the surgery safely.

There’s some options for V-Line. You can go to a of to a dental surgery in Korea known as a 치과 (chee-kwa) or a plastic surgery clinic 성형외과 (seong-hyeong-eek-kwa), which has facial contouring specialists. You can also go to a University Hospital.

Examples of dental surgery would be clinics like EverM, and The Face Dental where @nycangel wrote a very good in depth review regarding her experience.

And Plastic Surgery Clinics would be places like Dream, TL Plastic Surgery, Facline, etc… You can see a full list here. Facial Contouring Clinics Seoul

Birthmark and mole removal is typically about 10,000 won ($9 USD) per mm. I’ll check on the teeth whitening.

For your nose question @sora might have a better response.

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@NycAngel

Thanks for the review, I was wondering out of 5 stars how would you rate your experience for each of the following factors:

• Overall Rating:
• Bedside Manner:
• Answered my questions:
• Aftercare and follow up:
• Staff courtesy and professionalism:
• Payment process:
• Wait times:

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There are clinics that just focus on nose rhinoplasty, and often times they are ENT doctors who have crossed over into cosmetic surgery, since they have extensive knowledge of the nose from their ENT experience, it’s hard to say if they are best, but they tend to have a high volume of cases and experience. In reality though they are not technically considered a licensed plastic surgeon, but are able to perform rhinoplasty.

An example would be Dr. Jung at Shimmian Clinic

Experienced rhinoplasty plastic surgeons that may be worth a consultation are:

• Dream – Dr. Park
• TLPS – Dr. Kim
• Migo – Dr Kang
• VIP – Dr Lee
• Mega – Dr Yoo

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Hi @mehere,

Welcome to My Seoul Secret. That looks like a quite a complex stack of procedures. Are you interested in having them all done in Seoul? If so, would you like to have them all done in one trip?

@lemmiknox and @pnewelljr have had genioplasty in Seoul at Everm and at VIP Plastic Surgery and they may be able to chime in with their experience.

What type of scar revision are you looking for?

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Hi @mumu84

Thanks for posting! To help filter through the list of clinics, I was wondering what look are you hoping to achieve – dramatic change or natural?

Also, what sort of nose treatments are you seeking?

Heightening your bridge, augmenting nostrils, correcting a droopy tip, deviated septum, etc…?

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This really varies from case to case because what’s best for one, might not be best for another. The advantages of synthetic implants (i.e, silicone) is that it’s not as complex and costly as harvesting autologous material (fancy Latin medical word meaning natural material from your own body), such as rib cartilage.

Implants can be shaped and cut to precision, and deliver a very stable and predictable look over time assuming that no complications happen. They can also be removed more easily than autologous material if a revision surgery is needed.

However, since silicone is a foreign material, it can run a higher risk of complications such as being rejected by the body, especially if it’s infected, and could migrate, shift, or stick out (extrusion). But there are different types of synthetic implants available to off-set these risks (example Gore Tex), and each one also comes with its own pros and cons. These are worst-case scenarios, but if you go to an experienced clinic then these risks can be significantly reduced.

When it comes to cartilage, rib is usually the last choice if no other cartilage can be harvested such as septal cartilage from the nose (first choice, but many Asians do not have a lot of extra septal cartilage), then it’s ear cartilage the second best choice, but it’s not really preferable by many surgeons for bridge heightening. If all options are exhausted and the goal is heightening the bridge with cartilage, then rib becomes the best option.

The advantage of using rib cartilage is it has an extremely lower risk of infection and being rejected because it’s from your own body. Some disadvantages of rib cartilage that people report is that it can feel very hard or stiff, and there’s a possibility of a long-term complication such as warping or the shape changing and or curving overtime. There are special techniques to prevent or minimize this, so it’s best to go to real pro for this procedure. Also cartilage is not as easy to remove if a revision surgery is needed.

It’s a tough choice, but most folks in general say it’s always best to try and use material from your own body if you can.

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Does anyone know of an easier way to get around Seoul? Catching a cab is tricky because most, if not all, cab drivers here don’t speak a lick of English. Not to mention they have poor eyesight so dont even think about showing them your phone unless you have a Galaxy phablet like many of the locals.

Will keep you posted on the consultations, just trying to consolidate everything so far.

It’s a little tricky sometimes but here are some things you can do:

Always use big landmarks: (Big Hotels, Subway Stations, Etc…)

Korean cab drivers don’t really go by addresses, but landmarks such as subway stations, so a good pre-plan is to know the nearest subway stations of your destinations before hand.

Telling the driver to use his GPS if you have the address:

If you have an address, you can ask the driver to put it in the navigation. Just point your finger at the GPS navigation on their dashboard and say “Navigation Jew Saw” (Means you have an address for the GPS) When you say the address you always say it in this order: _______Gu _______Dong ### – ###. For example Gangnam Gu Sinsa Dong 323-343 (Say each number individually and slowly and when you get to the hyphen or dash say “Dash-She” and then the last part of the number). If you have the address printed in Korean like on a business card or on a webpage – even better! Just show that to him/her.

Example: Gangnam Gu Sinsa Dong 323-343

You: (Pointing at GPS and paper address) “NAVIGATION JEW SAW”

Driver: (Puts on glasses leans to GPS and starts pressing buttons)

You: (Start Saying Slowly) Gangnam-Gu (Gu pronounced like goo); Sinsa Dong; Three, Two, Three, DASH SHEE ,Three, Four, Three

Getting an Interpreter to Help You

Say “Free Interpreter” they will call a taxi interpretation service (this is a hit or miss, some drivers might feel annoyed and say no and ask you to find another cab)
If you have a Korean sim card, rental phone or don’t mind roaming you can call 1330 – This is a 24-7 Foreigner Support Line
You can download an app called BBB, which is a free voice language volunteer app that can connect you with Korean person using Wifi or Data on your smart phone, and they can help you do quick interpretations.

Google Maps

Depends on eyesight, but if you have a smartphone zooming into the area you want to go and showing it to them helps.

Anyone else got tips I left out?

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@jadewyt316

This is great, thanks for sharing your experience, it will really help others understand the process. especially the physical and emotional aspect. That feeling you described is something that resonates with a lot of people right out of post-opp. It sounds like their post-opp care overall was fairly decent. Usually the routine follow up at large clinics is that the nurses attend to clean-up and care, but if there is a problem will and should notify the doctor, and the doctor at some point should check on the patient before they leave the country, and it sounds like he did, but it’s always good to see the doctor the first time around to help calm some nerves.

Keep us updated on your healing process! And we’re sure a lot of folks out there might need some tips and advice from you.

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Thanks for the update!

Item is a newer clinic, so its prices are competitive, but last time I checked they have only three doctors and are really making a push to take on larger clinics, which have a team of doctors, so their bed side manner may seem rushed as a result. That will be a common occurrence at some of the larger hospitals as well. I think it’s important to find a doctor your comfortable with and usually clinics that are a smaller boutique style and just focus on eyes will tend to be more patient during consultations.

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From my understanding, you can go for follow up treatments as touch ups for volume that has been reabsorbed. This is especially ideal if a clinic stores your excess fat and freezes it, but I’ve read the highest you can go is one cup. However this doctor from Miami Breast Center says you can go higher, and he seems to have a lot of expertise in the area. Here are some similar questions and answers I found on his site.

Question: My actual breast size is 34AA or 32A. From the photos I sent to you, which breast size I can go up to after the fat-transfer-to-breast procedure based on the fat I have and my current breast size?

Answer: You determine the size of your final and permanent breast enlargement.The more you can expand your breasts by intensively using BRAVA before the fat graft, the larger your final augmentation. Our studies show that we can give you an augmentation volume of about 80% of the temporary enlargement you are able to achieve with BRAVA.

Question: I heard sometimes fat cells get absorbed by the body after transferring to the breasts. So, what are the chances for fat cell survival on average individuals? Can the results be maintained as permanent even taking into account the pregnancy and breastfeeding? Which factors could cause the changes of the expected results?

Answer: Experts now realize that limiting factor for successful breast augmentation is not the graft, but the recipient site in which the grafts are placed. The larger this recipient and the better it is prepared, the more fat we can graft inside and the better it will survive.

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It’s good that you pointed that out, I’ve actually stumbled upon this issue on another forum posting from a UK woman who came to Seoul for the procedure, but was burned below her chin. Ultimatley, it really depends upon the surgeon’s skills and experience with the technique. Sometimes clinics might have it on their menu of procedures, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the doctor is practiced enough.

Some qualifying questions to ask a doctor or clinic:

• How many cases have you done with AccuLift?
• Can you show me before and after pictures with cases similar to mine
• What are the risks with AccuLift?
• What will your clinic do if an incident occurs or the procedure fails?

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I always find the inner type really attractive because it still has that authentic Asian look. The outer type and inner-outer type are of course beautiful! I just prefer the inner type for myself.​

That’s a good point, everyone’s tastes and preferences will be different, and some people are concerned about losing ethnic markers of their appearance after surgery. That’s why a lot of Asian patients from the West prefer Korean docs because they understand Asian aesthetics deeply. But on the other hand some people want to lose or change their ethnic markers. It really varies from person to person, I’ve seen some girls out here get told they look mixed or foreign, and take it as a compliment, and some get offended and take it as an insult.

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Hi Yusa! =) The cost can vary, especially depending upon on clinic you go to (boutique clinic for Koreans vs larger international clinic). Temporary fillers like Restylane will be the least expensive around 150,000 KRW (~$130 USD) to 250,000 KRW (~ $210 USD), while the surgical option can start at around 800,000 KRW (~$750 USD) and can be up to 2,500,000 KRW (~$2,300 USD). Really depends on the clinic and sometimes price is not necessarily an indicator of quality.

Also, feel free to suggest any other cosmetic treatments, we haven’t covered yet!

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Hey Jane,

Thanks for the share and congrats on your first post! How did it you like that clinic you picked? Do you mind sharing the name, sounds like a good price.

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Hi Nala, there are a lot of clinics offering Acculift, but as a speciality, one way to filter through them is by asking for the number of cases they’ve treated, how long have they been offering the treatment and if you can browse their gallery of patients with a similar case.

I was browsing some Naver results and came an Accusclupt landing page for TheLine Clinic

http://goo.gl/2qtl5j

Not sure if that’s the clinic you went to before.

By the way the Korean spelling for Acculift is – 아큐리프트 in case you want to browse the Korean web, helps to do it with Google Chrome, so it can auto translate pages.

Clinics also call the treatment V-Lifting (V<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>리프팅)</span>

Sounds like you did not get the results you were looking for the first time around, it will help others if you share your experience via a review – https://myseoulsecret.com/write-review/

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Really good info here, thanks for sharing, and that’s a great tip about placing your primary clinic 2nd or 3rd and having some practice consultations before and getting used to the motions. Practice does build more confidence in communicating.

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